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Re: Hale-Bopp THEN and NOW


Article: <5eq0mk$jti@sjx-ixn2.ix.netcom.com>
From: saquo@ix.netcom.com(Nancy )
Subject: Re: Hale-Bopp THEN and NOW
Date: 23 Feb 1997 18:01:56 GMT

In article <5eo88a$i90@news.ccit.arizona.edu> Jim Scotti writes:
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>> And please don't say they are following the form of an ellipse.
>> Comets are not constructed by CAD programs nor do they
>> have a track in the sky that they are following.
>
> Have you ever heard of Johannes Kepler? He showed more
> than 300 years ago that objects in orbit around a central body
> move in elliptical orbits. ... There are many faint asteroids
> and comets which pass beyond our view yet faithfully return
> when predicted. Even though comet Halley passed out of our
> view several times since it was found to be on a periodic
> highly elliptical orbit, it returned as it was predicted to.
> jscotti@LPL.Arizona.EDU (Jim Scotti)

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Kepler and your other gods which you are loath to stop worshipping DESCRIBED what they saw in the math language. As we have repeatedly mentioned, they played with the math until it was an accurate description, playing backwards and forwards. This is no different than a newspaper reporter wanting to develop an handy-dandy method of predicting when the Speaker of the House would make another personal appearance before the press - X days after another ethics charge had been released. If it works in the main, its relied upon. When it doesn't work, then some unexplained perturbation or unseen outgassing interfered with the anticipated orbit.

Regarding your math "proof", they work on those objects you CONTINUOUSLY SEE, such as the planets and large asteroids, BECAUSE THEY WERE DESIGNED TO DESCRIBE those objects. As for your ability to predict when Halley's would reappear, this only occurred because a REPEATING PATTERN was available as a major clue. Until the comet reappeared as Halley predicted, it was still a hypothesis. In this case it still falls into the category of being continuously seen. For instance, you state that you can continuously see the other planets, but in truth only see them when they are not blocked from your view by the Sun.
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