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Article: <5dcqd6$5s5@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> 
  From: saquo@ix.netcom.com(Nancy )
  Subject: Re: Orbital Elements for the 12th Planet
  Date: 6 Feb 1997 14:38:30 GMT
In article <5d8a3a$1va@thrush.sover.net> Gary Wiltshire
  writes:
  >> (Begin ZetaTalk[TM])
  >> Unlike planets, which have established their equilibrium 
  >> after having been trapped into an orbit around a single
  focus,
  >> the 12th Planet acts as a rogue planet, boring straight
  for 
  >> the Sun. Where its pace between foci is more sedate,
  when 
  >> passing a focus it zooms. 
  >
  > all planetary orbits have TWO of them as those orbits are 
  > ELLIPSES. Stick two tacks into the cover of one of your 
  > schlock publications and put a loop of string around them. 
  > Stretch the loop taut with a pencil and move the pencil
  around 
  > the FOCI. Voila! An orbit!
  >70523.3077@compuserve.com (Gary A. Wiltshire)
(Begin ZetaTalk[TM])
  Your analogy falters, Gary. Reading it one starts to imagine the
  orbit of Mars or the Earth, with a pin stuck out there somewhere
  to the side of the Sun. Is this truly the case? Perhaps you meant
  to say that all orbits are elliptical, which has a different
  meaning. You DRAWING TOOLS may need two foci within the ellipse,
  but planets do NOT. Their second or third or fourth foci can be
  outside of the ellipse, and most often are. We will ask our
  emissary, Nancy, to repost a portion of our prior statement on
  ellipses.
  (End ZetaTalk[TM])
As requested, a paragraph on one of their topics on orbits.
(Begin ZetaTalk[TM] excerpt on Orbits)
  Orbiting planets are in motion because they are attracted to more
  than the Sun's gravitational field, more than the Sun's dark twin
  which acts as the 12th Planet's second foci, and certainly more
  than each other, although that is a small factor. Do the stars
  maintain their distance from each other by accident? For those
  who doubt that there are gravitational influences outside of the
  Solar System, pulling on the orbiting planets, we would point to
  the elliptical path that planets assume. Why an ellipse? If the
  planets were concerned only with the Sun, or with each other,
  they would not assume the path they do. Planets assume an
  elliptical orbit for the same reason that comets leave the Solar
  System. They are listening to more than one voice. As to why this
  voice but not another calls to this planet but not another, the
  answer lies in the force of gravity, which is not at all as
  simple as humans assume. Gravity has many nuances, depending on
  composition and distance, and what influences one body toward
  another may have little effect on other bodies.
  (End ZetaTalk[TM] excerpt on Orbits)